How to play 16th notes with one hand

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  • Publicado el 20 jun 2022
  • Tried and tested way to play 16th notes on the hi-hat with one hand ✅
    Watch as bonafide rock legend Todd Sucherman (of Styx) expertly breaks down the shank tip technique in this quick tip.
    Can you hear the difference? 🤔
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Comentarios • 118

  • Fiddlesticks WT
    Fiddlesticks WT Hace 3 meses +277

    You'll learn this technique naturally after you hit a dead end playing 16th notes the wrong way. Or at lest that's how it worked for me.

    • David Sotomayor
      David Sotomayor Hace 2 meses

      Lol the wrong way?🤔

    • Spladoinkal
      Spladoinkal Hace 3 meses +1

      @Fiddlesticks WT exactly, ramones, greenday, even Tom Sawyer by Rush if I remember correctly (this is from memory, it's totally possible that Tom Sawyer is accented I just don't remember it that way).

    • Fiddlesticks WT
      Fiddlesticks WT Hace 3 meses +1

      @Spladoinkal Like Marky Ramone perhaps? He does interrupt every so often by crashing and allowing his hand to rest.

    • Spladoinkal
      Spladoinkal Hace 3 meses +2

      yup. Although there ARE instances where the music calls for even 16ths on the hihat rather than accents. Usually you can play that with two hands though

    • Wey-jen
      Wey-jen Hace 3 meses +1

      That’s what happened for me

  • Robert Thompson
    Robert Thompson Hace 3 meses +83

    This is hard to teach, it just happens eventually (years later in most cases). You can actually practice it on your lap. Use your fingers for one note and your palm for the 2nd. Hopefully that helps someone...😊

    • Richard Wienburg
      Richard Wienburg Hace 3 meses +1

      @Pat Murch put the car on cruise control and your feet are free to practice.

    • Pat Murch
      Pat Murch Hace 3 meses +5

      I got ALOT better at this and drumming in general by practicing with a small shaker in my left hand on the steering wheel while I drive (and blast music) I've been doing this since 2017, when I lost the privilege of having open access to a large hall to store and use my full array of music gear. I had to do something to keep up, and I was driving long distances at the time. I first tried putting a snare on my passenger seat but that got tiresome trying to move it around while driving so now I've just been always with the left hand shaker (I'm right handed) and sometimes a stick in the wheel (my steering wheel actually creates a decent thud if you hit it with the fat part of the stick and on 12 o clock position or 6 o clock position of the steering wheel... and also a decent "thwack" when you hit it with the skinny part of the stick and on the side of the wheel or 3 o clock.
      Now when I play drums (which is unfortunately a rarity lately) I pretty much have become an "open" position player or ambidextrous regarding which hand is in the hats or which is on the snare... Only thing is, now, my legs are way behind. Can't think of any practical ways to practice bass or double bass while driving!
      Hey, this is just what I did And still do ... Something I developed out of an unfortunate loss of a practice space, and overwhelming need to keep practicing.
      Do what you have to do, to keep doing you. There's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak! Think outside the box!

  • Diego Coutinho
    Diego Coutinho Hace 3 meses +47

    Todd is one of the greatest drummers and educators in the business.

  • Ashimoto Akai
    Ashimoto Akai Hace 3 meses +18

    This is generally how you'd play 16th notes in most settings, but don't discard the other method. Using the finger technique, you can get different sounds out of the hi-hat whilst still playing 16th notes. Times you'd use finger technique over this push and pull technique is if you play blast beats, and you're looking for a consistent dynamic across all your hits, or when you're playing dnb, when you're trying to emulate the sound of a drum machine. Don't discard any techniques, if there's something potentially interesting you can do with it, you should find a way to adapt the technique to help with longevity and the sound you want to go for/create! Be experimental! Evolve your sound! Evolve the sound of the music you play!

  • Dave Green
    Dave Green Hace 2 meses

    Todd ur one of the all time best!! Thanks for the lesson, will definitely get to work practicing that move.

  • Menzer Roku
    Menzer Roku Hace 3 meses +1

    Woah!! Pretty deeper drumming stuff😀Mr Todd does a wonderful Job teaching us important lessons. Respect😀

  • Tim Farmer
    Tim Farmer Hace 2 meses

    I LOVE free drum 🥁 🪘 lessons. Thank you. 🤠👍

  • Myke Mynah
    Myke Mynah Hace 3 meses +1

    Excellent tip - thank you!

  • Cranky Alexander
    Cranky Alexander Hace 3 meses

    Great quick lesson! 👍🏽

  • Henry Chauhan Drums
    Henry Chauhan Drums Hace 3 meses

    Really well broken down!

  • Matt F.
    Matt F. Hace 3 meses +9

    Learned that from Gary Chaffee when I was at Berklee years ago. Wonderful technique to have under your belt.

    • Menzer Roku
      Menzer Roku Hace 3 meses +1

      Yes😀then you can play with a broken arm

  • MusicalDev
    MusicalDev Hace 3 meses

    Must watch for anyone learning drums

  • Neal Sausen
    Neal Sausen Hace un mes

    Freddie Gruber showed me this technique many years ago! Decades really! It involves a release and reverse release Motion Also the weight of the the stick comes in to play! for the 16th notes or for Triplets, Eighth notes or any group really But there is a bit of an up-and-down really it’s just in conjunction with the releases see FRED GRUBER for details?

  • Music is the cure
    Music is the cure Hace 3 meses +1

    It is very cool cause u perfectly can work that technique on practice pads ( it comes fast )

  • Kevin McPherson
    Kevin McPherson Hace 3 meses +1

    More T. Sucherman please 😀

  • Jon Wall
    Jon Wall Hace 3 meses +2

    Very helpful!

  • Cyril ViXP
    Cyril ViXP Hace 3 meses +4

    The most sport intensive musical instrument. Really, I never felt so tired after playing bass or electric guitar. I'm just playing several rudiments for an hour at 90bpm and feeling tired as hell

    • Jordon Wiersema
      Jordon Wiersema Hace 2 meses

      Probably holding a lot of tension, creating fatigue. It's bad for technique, endurance, rhythm, and tone.

    • Miguel
      Miguel Hace 2 meses

      @Cyril ViXP it's exhausting at times

    • Cyril ViXP
      Cyril ViXP Hace 3 meses

      @Where?There!Dude I've bought drums just to learn how to compose the drum sections for my songs, because have no clue how to do it right, but who knows, maybe it will be more interesting, than I thought)

    • Tekkerue
      Tekkerue Hace 3 meses +1

      @Where?There!Dude aka: sprinting on the drums until you pass out. 😰💀

    • Where?There!Dude
      Where?There!Dude Hace 3 meses

      Wait until you try "extreme metal"

  • Tommy Botts
    Tommy Botts Hace 2 meses

    Sucherman is one of the top drummers on Planet Earth!

  • Daniel H Sørensen YT
    Daniel H Sørensen YT Hace 3 meses +1

    You are my favorite drummer Todd.Love from Denmark.🤪🔝🥁😃💜

  • Swivelken248 Chan
    Swivelken248 Chan Hace 3 meses

    I also use that technique for flow and efficiency of blast beats on the ride.

  • PulSar -_-
    PulSar -_- Hace 3 meses +9

    I always see this technique and never got the grasp of it, hopefully this is able to help me later on

    • ZeeuwseMeeuw
      ZeeuwseMeeuw Hace 3 meses

      Took me a while aswell, i played What You Won't Do For Love by Bobby Caldwell over and over to get better 16th on my hi-hat. Worked great for me. When u get the speed down then work on your sound.

    • Drumeo
      Drumeo  Hace 3 meses +1

      Hope this helps!

  • apiece ofdirt
    apiece ofdirt Hace 2 meses

    This actually works well but mastering it is the key.

  • daniel jakubovic
    daniel jakubovic Hace 2 meses

    Beautiful playing

  • Seiji Tsuda
    Seiji Tsuda Hace 8 días

    learnt this technique when i was a beginner

  • Daniel Dyer
    Daniel Dyer Hace 2 meses

    I like this, thank you

  • Maximum Overdrive
    Maximum Overdrive Hace 3 meses

    Wish I'd have known this decades ago.

  • Matt Nieri
    Matt Nieri Hace 3 meses +4

    The great James Gadson's hi-hat technique!!

  • Fred Average Minville
    Fred Average Minville Hace 3 meses

    What’s the “ mixer / metronome they use? Little silver box thingy …. I need to make my gear more streamlined

  • Gady Marcus
    Gady Marcus Hace 3 meses +1

    Magnificent.

  • ASHGREY303 (new channel coming December)

    When your drum teacher is George lucas

  • TheMixtape11
    TheMixtape11 Hace 3 meses +1

    Fantastic. I appreciate this, I have seen a number of videos but the angle was always really hard for me to see what the instructor was getting at. Thank you for posting.

  • Salty Aces
    Salty Aces Hace 3 meses

    tbh it feels much more natural to play 16th notes like this as opposed to the "up and down" motion. if someone wasn't gonna show you this technique, you would have worked it out for yourself at some point

  • M. von Hollen
    M. von Hollen Hace 3 meses

    Excellent!

  • Steve Hunt
    Steve Hunt Hace 2 meses +1

    BRILLIANT!!!!

  • MajesticDemonLord
    MajesticDemonLord Hace 3 meses

    So... it's a Moeller roll or an Open-Close, just played between the Wrist and Arm, as opposed to Wrist and Fingers.
    It's impressive for sure how clean he plays it though;

  • Johan Engelin
    Johan Engelin Hace 3 meses

    I like the in and out motion

  • Mateusz Kamiński
    Mateusz Kamiński Hace 3 meses

    I dont see any up and down in the 2nd option

  • Michael Bailey
    Michael Bailey Hace 3 meses +4

    He's a master of those Styx.

  • J.D.
    J.D. Hace 3 meses

    You're holding the left stick incorrectly tho 🤣

  • Frank Carpi
    Frank Carpi Hace 2 meses

    It's basically the push-pull method

  • Basement Artie
    Basement Artie Hace un mes

    Good old Moeller stroke 🏆👍🏻🥁

  • Joe Rico
    Joe Rico Hace 2 meses +1

    What a face when he says you're playing the hats wrong LOL good job with Styx Brother

  • Mystic Wolf
    Mystic Wolf Hace 2 meses

    It's the same feel as if you were in the ride

  • Bryan Gibson
    Bryan Gibson Hace 3 meses

    Good for those of us who play the outro of Drop Dead Legs from Van Halen.

  • Lore Jacobs
    Lore Jacobs Hace 3 meses +4

    It’s called the Moeller technique. It’s difficult in the beginning, but it’s definitely worth practicing it cause once you get the hang of it, it kinda goes automatically and it sounds good. Just have fun with it and be experimental. You can also do it with 8th notes. Just try to learn it correct from the start because bad technique is hard to fix. Lots of love and I wish you all lots of fun! 💖

    • Morten
      Morten Hace 3 meses

      Very Moeller ish yet not the same.
      I would say the moeller technique is the best.
      Vertical movement is more effecient

    • TheLasagne
      TheLasagne Hace 3 meses

      not quite möller. but theres only so much you can do with the hand in that position so the techniques are likely all gonna be similar

    • S
      S Hace 3 meses +5

      Moeller doesn't include this back and forth type of thing. Moller is about the upstroke and the downstroke and using the momentum on the Y-axis. This technique in the video is different

  • Zach Swift
    Zach Swift Hace 3 meses

    What are the trade offs of this compared to alternating singles with two hands

    • Morten
      Morten Hace 3 meses

      A free hand

  • D.C. California
    D.C. California Hace 3 meses

    🥁⚡️👏🏻

  • Katori Chaz?
    Katori Chaz? Hace 2 meses

    Nice!

  • tam hewitt-baker
    tam hewitt-baker Hace 3 meses

    Looks a bit like the mohler technique. 🤙

  • Aaron Salvesen
    Aaron Salvesen Hace 3 meses

    Brilliant

  • Arthur Andrew 🎃
    Arthur Andrew 🎃 Hace 3 meses

    My teacher Ed Thigpen had another technique to do this and even play 16ths with one hand way faster.

    • Arthur Andrew 🎃
      Arthur Andrew 🎃 Hace 3 meses

      @TheLasagne I probably still have it on one of those private videos that I recorded.
      When I find it I will upload it for all drummers to enjoy.
      We used that technique to do really fast fills or rhythms with our left hand, but you can also use it for slower 16's on a hihat like in this video of course.

    • TheLasagne
      TheLasagne Hace 3 meses

      very insightful comment :/

  • Gogoman zzz
    Gogoman zzz Hace 2 meses

    pov you are watching Einstein play drums 🤓

  • Jebus1364
    Jebus1364 Hace 3 meses

    Educating

  • Ghetto Streamlabs
    Ghetto Streamlabs Hace 3 meses +5

    Need to get Todd a properly cooked steak he doesn't have to saw on to eat LOL

  • DCmastermind First
    DCmastermind First Hace 3 meses

    It's basically just push pull technique

  • ralph mazzacane
    ralph mazzacane Hace 3 meses

    👍👍

  • XxUNASxX
    XxUNASxX Hace 2 meses

    What I do for blast beats beautiful

  • True Stars Shine
    True Stars Shine Hace 3 meses

    Sounds a little like Boz Scaggs Dirty Low Down

  • Oskari Manninen
    Oskari Manninen Hace 3 meses +1

    Gravity blast with hi-hat :D

    • TheLasagne
      TheLasagne Hace 3 meses +1

      kind of. it feels very similar at least. just a bigger range of motion

  • James Randall
    James Randall Hace 3 meses

    is this a molar technique?

  • giovanni perretta
    giovanni perretta Hace 3 meses

    Thank u

  • Dakota Wiebe
    Dakota Wiebe Hace 3 meses +1

    Broke a wall for me

  • hotlanta35
    hotlanta35 Hace 3 meses

    Nice

  • King Louie
    King Louie Hace 2 meses

    Well oiled machine.

  • Blacklist
    Blacklist Hace 3 meses

    It's a Moller technique....

  • Kai Judd
    Kai Judd Hace 3 meses

    Noice!!!

  • mike osburn
    mike osburn Hace 2 meses

    Plus you have better speed control

  • Calvin Nigh
    Calvin Nigh Hace 3 meses +1

    Sorry love, no time for the ol’ in-and-out

  • Aaron Sesula
    Aaron Sesula Hace 3 meses

    Lost me at cutting a steak 🥩 mmm 🥩

  • Verce 919
    Verce 919 Hace 2 meses

    Who knew Jon Stewart was this nice

  • marty maness
    marty maness Hace 3 meses +12

    Huh huh huh huh, in and out motion.

  • Dawson Maxey
    Dawson Maxey  Hace 3 meses

    Cutting Steak really help

  • A A
    A A Hace 3 meses

    🤮🤮Crap...just crap.
    Any beginner would do better🤣

  • Kilo
    Kilo Hace 2 meses

    Macaroni. In a pot.

  • Chris Russo
    Chris Russo Hace 3 meses +1

    GOT GRAY!!??...sorry Todd!! at least you have hair!! :(

  • TD-12KX
    TD-12KX Hace 3 meses

    Hmmmm…

  • Tristen Serrano
    Tristen Serrano Hace 3 meses +1

    So just moller

  • MrGenedancingmachine
    MrGenedancingmachine Hace 3 meses +1

    I thought thats how everyone did them

    • Drumeo
      Drumeo  Hace 3 meses

      Past a certain speed, this is really the only way you can do it.

  • Carlos Chavez
    Carlos Chavez Hace 3 meses

    Isnt this just a Muller technique where your getting basically 2 strokes out of one hit

    • Matthew Love
      Matthew Love Hace 3 meses +1

      No, and it’s ^*you’re, not your🤡

    • MusiQuest
      MusiQuest Hace 3 meses +3

      kind of "horizontal" moeller

  • Immanuel / Everyday
    Immanuel / Everyday Hace 2 meses

    i am the 100th comment

  • Rory Donald
    Rory Donald Hace 2 meses

    George Lucas

  • De Ko
    De Ko Hace 3 meses

    I quit!!!!

    • De Ko
      De Ko Hace 3 meses

      @Pat Murch thank you I appreciate this I’m just not getting better 🥺😭 I’ll keep at it ❤️🌹💯

    • Pat Murch
      Pat Murch Hace 3 meses +1

      Don't! 😱 ... Hey @De Ko just remember... No matter who you are, there will, and is ALWAYS somebody who is better. Approach it as a constant neverending tool to allow you to keep honing your craft, over and over, again and again! Remember, there is no such thing as perfection, just practice!